{"id":463,"date":"2002-07-31T01:35:00","date_gmt":"2002-07-31T07:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lordandrei.com\/blog\/?p=463"},"modified":"2002-07-31T01:35:00","modified_gmt":"2002-07-31T07:35:00","slug":"david-vs-goliath","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.lordandrei.com\/blog\/2002\/07\/31\/david-vs-goliath\/","title":{"rendered":"David vs. Goliath"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So realizing that I obviously have the same amount of business savvy as the next multi-majored, college drop out with 10+ years, single industry experience. I figured I&#8217;d take this opportunity to go toe-to-toe with Forbes Magazine, Editor-in-chief, Steve Forbes.<\/p>\n<p>In the August 12, 2002 issue of Forbes, Mr. Forbes makes some grandiose comments in a column called &#8220;Fact and Comment&#8221;. Personally, I disagree with most of the scare tactics he has chosen to use.<\/p>\n<p><!--more Here's why. Note... lots of opinion herein. Comments and debate are welcome, personal attacks will be deleted, links supporting facts are grandly appreciated (and also open to debate)--><\/p>\n<p><a HREF=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/07\/30\/news\/washwrap\/index.htm\">Today, &#8220;W&#8221; signed into Law<\/a> a <a HREF=\"http:\/\/news.findlaw.com\/cnn\/docs\/gwbush\/sarbanesoxley072302.pdf\">bill that enacts tougher penalties<\/a> for corporate fraud. The maximum sentence for executives who commit corporate fraud quadruples from 5 years to 20 years.<\/p>\n<p>Massively powerful Business Person Steve Forbes has a few comments:<br \/>\nHis comments are based from a statement: &#8220;As Forbes Silicon Valley bureau chief, Quentin Hardy, put it on <i>Forbes on Fox<\/i>, &#8220;<b>Washington should not confuse corruption with risk-taking<\/b>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to take a quick examination of the buzz-companies that are the fuel on this fire of what Forbes defines as &#8220;<b>sheer hysteria<\/b>&#8221; in the public:<\/p>\n<p>Enron: Mis-stated $24 Billion in revenue to hide state of company debt. Paid execs heavily before issues came out. (Lost Jobs 4500)<br \/>\nArthur Andersen: <a HREF=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/04\/09\/news\/companies\/andersen_duncan\/index.htm\">Auditor pleads guilty to &#8220;Obstruction of Justice&#8221;<\/a><br \/>\nWorldcom <a HREF=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/07\/01\/news\/companies\/ebbers\/index.htm\">$3.8 billion in expenses that had improperly been classified as capital expenditures<\/a> <a HREF=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/06\/25\/news\/worldcom\/index.htm\">Secondary link&#8230;<\/a>(Lost Jobs 17,000)<br \/>\nQwest: <a HREF=\"http:\/\/cnnfn.looksmart.com\/og\/pr=FastSitesCustom;tc=;pc=15;ro=1;rc=16;pi=zce|http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/07\/29\/news\/companies\/qwest\/index.htm\">1.16 billion in improperly recorded revenue.<\/a><br \/>\nXerox: <a HREF=\"http:\/\/cnnfn.looksmart.com\/og\/pr=FastSitesCustom;tc=;pc=15;ro=8;rc=16;pi=zce|http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/06\/28\/news\/companies\/xerox\/index.htm\">Improperly booked $2 billion, restates 1.4 billion less in pre-tax profits.<\/a> <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.quicken.com\/investments\/news\/nyt\/notemplates\/frame.dcg?symbol=XRX&#038;ntlink=http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2002\/06\/29\/business\/29XERO.html?ex=1033272000&#038;en=c07d9c2314e2ba81&#038;ei=5002&#038;partner=INTUIT\">Then restates the amount is actually 6.4 billion.<\/a><br \/>\nAdelphia: <a HREF=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2002\/07\/24\/news\/rigas\/index.htm\">founders found charged for looting, fraud, embezzlement, and racketeering<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Hmmn. So, what in these cases separates &#8216;fraud&#8217; from risk taking? <\/p>\n<p>Forbes then likens the new rush of laws to creating a &#8220;&#8230;<b>modern version of  the debtors&#8217; prison concept<\/b>&#8221; He pushes this concept with a rather horrific looking piece of artwork showing the squalor of the 18th century debtors&#8217; prison.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<b>It&#8217;s one thing to punish those who willfully commit fraud and other well-defined crimes, quite another to jail or ruin people for bad judgment, mistakes, or for taking risks that go wrong.<\/b>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll get to &#8216;well-defined&#8217; in a moment as later in this same issue of Forbes I had to laugh at the irony. The basic problem I have here is that Forbes seems to be defending a lot of what we&#8217;ve seen as &#8216;cavalier, risk-taking, heroes.&#8217; And yet, we&#8217;ve seen nearly 50,000 jobs slashed this year because the guy getting paid to watch the books &#8216;misplaced&#8217; $2 Billion dollars. And I put this to any of you who&#8217;ve not realized that you&#8217;ve capped out your credit cards, written a check hoping that the deposit will clear before your check does, not paid a bill on time, or any other list of 100 little things that as individuals we get pinned for.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, in the real world, if you ignore a bill for $0.05&#8230; that&#8217;s right&#8230; 5 cents, it can go on your credit record. But.. in the corporate world, this is &#8220;risk taking&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<b>As for having CEOs sign off on their companies&#8217; financial statements&#8211;how would members of Congress like to be personally liable for every appropriations bill they pass?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>You mean they aren&#8217;t? I realize this is a might be of a naive statement that I&#8217;ve made. But I figure in this I agree with what Forbes is suggesting. Yes, if someone votes for legislation, I believe they are fully liable. <\/p>\n<p><b>Members haven&#8217;t a clue as to the details in most of those spending bills.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>This of course is an entirely different rant on the downfall of our legislative system best kept to another post. I think a bill should state clearly what it covers and not have 1000 other little issues tacked into it. I firmly believe that the legislators should know what they are voting for as much as a CEO is responsible to know what the upper management does in hir company.  <\/p>\n<p><b>Would they be willing to personally sign off on the income tax code they&#8217;ve been creating over the years? Mandate that and they&#8217;d all end up in the hoosegow.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Does the phrase, &#8220;Kill all the lawyers&#8221; come to mind?<\/p>\n<p>Forbes goes on to redeem &#8220;W&#8221; for commenting that &#8220;<b>many accounting issues &#8216;aren&#8217;t black and white.<\/b>&#8216;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I get the impression that the stance Forbes has is that in an industry that has grown so big in a &#8216;relatively&#8217; short time, we have to not overly ab-react to the &#8216;mavericks&#8217; who do what we &#8216;simple lay people&#8217; who are merely succumbing to the &#8220;<b>dangers of public passion<\/b>&#8221; mis-comprehend as illegal. We must not take notice of the tens of thousands of workers who&#8217;ve found themselves jobless and often without severance because a couple of people who make 1-3 orders of magnitude of salary over them, can&#8217;t do the jobs that they earn that salary for.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to agree that we who should not overly ab-react to the &#8216;mavericks&#8217; who do what we &#8216;simple lay people&#8217; who are merely succumbing to the &#8220;<b>dangers of public passion<\/b>&#8221; mis-comprehend as illegal should look at a story in the later pages of this same issue of Forbes.<\/p>\n<p>Title: <b><i>Next Step: Seize His Typewriter<\/i><\/b><br \/>\nKevin Mitnick, who spent five years in prison for hacking corporate computers, is now fighting a bit by the FCC to strip him of the ham radio license he&#8217;s held since his teens. Mitnick, 38 is already barred from using computers and cell phones. The FCC order scheduling a hearing lists no specific Mitnik act involving the relatively low-tech ham medium but only &#8220;his propensity to engage in criminal activities involving fraud&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s right folks. The government has decided that even if you&#8217;ve served a jail term, been released, and served parole time&#8230; The government can still take away your rights based on, &#8220;Well, we think you might do it again.&#8221; Translation, 0 strikes and you&#8217;re out. 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